tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11674728.post114779324989810109..comments2023-07-07T22:29:25.782+10:00Comments on the early days of ... I'd rather laugh than cry: in response, part 2ckjollyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06263260525667337446noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11674728.post-1147833055081458942006-05-17T12:30:00.000+10:002006-05-17T12:30:00.000+10:00When I was growing up, there was an older couple i...When I was growing up, there was an older couple in my church who lived through the haulocaust...as Christians. They risked their lives to rescue Jews from Hitler's Regime...even building a hide away in their home to shelter them. This couple loved Jesus with all their hearts...and even with their very life...willing to risk death because they loved the chosen race...the apple of God's eye.<BR/><BR/>Their names can be found on the wall at the end of the tour at The Haulocaust Museum in Washington D.C. Their names? Mr. and Mrs. Lubberts. (I can't remember their first names because I always called them "Mr and Mrs") <BR/><BR/>There was also another older couple who had similar stories to tell of living in Nazi occupied Holland. The woman, a Mrs. Veenje was even arrested for harboring Jews in her home. Her husband, who worked for the underground was at work at the time of the arrest. Being warned by someone, he did not return home, but he himself went into hiding because the Nazis now were after him...which would have most certainly meant death.<BR/><BR/>This is Christianity in its truest form.Priscillahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17112988669895238674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11674728.post-1147822589773359112006-05-17T09:36:00.000+10:002006-05-17T09:36:00.000+10:00Oh, and it isn't Christians being starved in the S...<I>Oh, and it isn't Christians being starved in the Sudan. They are local tribes, and even Muslims. Hence the reason Christian nations aren't in there with Relief Aid. </I><BR/><BR/>Are you just making this stuff up? <BR/><BR/>The Darfur region has many Christians there. And several Christian organisations are there helping out, including "Christian Aid".<BR/><BR/>Which "Christian nations" are you talking about? Sudan receives many millions of dollars in aid annually, mostly from nations with a Christian heritage.Craig Schwarzehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11156017639962303656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11674728.post-1147822261037953792006-05-17T09:31:00.000+10:002006-05-17T09:31:00.000+10:00I never said there weren't records, just none of J...<I> I never said there weren't records, just none of Jesus. It's amazing how there are details of rotten fish sauce being sold, yet nothing showing Jesus being executed. </I><BR/><BR/>Christine has quoted reams of documentation. Where is the record of rotten fish sauce?Craig Schwarzehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11156017639962303656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11674728.post-1147822163787710322006-05-17T09:29:00.000+10:002006-05-17T09:29:00.000+10:00But as I was saying. The Greatest Horrors ever see...<I>But as I was saying. The Greatest Horrors ever seen were committed in the name of Christianity and Jesus. </I><BR/><BR/>See post above - the greatest crimes in history have actually been committed in the name of secularism.Craig Schwarzehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11156017639962303656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11674728.post-1147822098989353292006-05-17T09:28:00.000+10:002006-05-17T09:28:00.000+10:00The most heinous crimes throughout history have be...<I>The most heinous crimes throughout history have been centered around ideologies.</I><BR/><BR/>Yes - Auschwitz, the Gulag, the Killing Fields of Cambodia, the Chinese Cultural Revolution...Craig Schwarzehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11156017639962303656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11674728.post-1147810154140807452006-05-17T06:09:00.000+10:002006-05-17T06:09:00.000+10:00Oh, and it isn't Christians being starved in the S...Oh, and it isn't Christians being starved in the Sudan. They are local tribes, and even Muslims. Hence the reason Christian nations aren't in there with Relief Aid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11674728.post-1147807590515866592006-05-17T05:26:00.000+10:002006-05-17T05:26:00.000+10:00The most heinous crimes throughout history have be...The most heinous crimes throughout history have been centered around ideologies. The majority of them were directly linked to Christianity. While the Crusades are seen as some great endeavor to free the "Holy Land" from the Muslim devils, if you ask someone from the Middle East, namely Muslims, it is seen as an invasion and invasion. You fast foward a few centuries, and move on over to Spain. You had the Inquisition, one of many Progroms against the Jews, and others who don't fit into the picture. Even within in Christianity you had wars fought between Catholism and PRotestants, go do some reading on the Irish Troubles if you want a more contemporary subject. Then there is the Holocaust, which was performed against perdominately Jews, but others as well... All of which was done in His name. <BR/><BR/>Oddly enough, if you look at historical facts and not legends, The Mongols under Ghenghis and Kublah was very progressive when it came to Religion. He had Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists... you name it. You swore allegience to the Khan, and didn't prothelsyze and forced it upon people. Granted, the Christianity that was in his court wasn't Catholocism or even the Eastern Orthodox, but the Syrian Rite. Oh, and he only slaughtered those who violated customs of diplomacy, hence the sacking of Bagdad. Even more amazing, is he was allied to some of the Crusader States. All this when Europe was struggling in horse manure.<BR/><BR/>But as I was saying. The Greatest Horrors ever seen were committed in the name of Christianity and Jesus. You're right in saying they were evil thinking people, but it wasn't just the rulers it was the populist. While women weren't directly influencial in the politic, they did whole sway with domestic life, and influencing their children. The Popes, who held authority up until the Reformation, had instigated much of these acts. Look at the First Crusades, rather wicked men running the Church then. <BR/><BR/>Oh, and before I mentioned Jesus was a Criminal and the like. Let's see, anyone causing problems in Judaea or any area of Roman Rule, woudl have been executed. There were many people trying to claim being Kings. I never said there weren't records, just none of Jesus. It's amazing how there are details of rotten fish sauce being sold, yet nothing showing Jesus being executed. <BR/><BR/>Oh Emperor Justinian, how you screwed the world w/ your conversion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com